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Build Guide

Great AMD Gaming/Streaming Build

by ThoughtA



At this budget, we're using the AMD Ryzen 5 2600X. Added to the list is the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition, which will perform better and more quietly than the stock cooler.

Note: If you'd prefer to consider a similar build, but instead using an Intel processor, be sure to check out our Great Intel Gaming Build Guide.


We're using a parametric filter to constantly select the best-priced motherboard while meeting selected criteria. In this case, we are filtering for ATX B450 chipsets and up to 4 DDR4 DIMM slots for future expansion. The compatibility engine will filter out anything not compatible with the build, and it will automatically update with the best priced option as prices change.


For our memory, the parametric filter finds the best price on 16GB kits of memory that are within AMD’s recommended specifications. We've limited it to DDR4-3000 and faster speeds, as Ryzen CPUs scale well with higher frequency memory.


We're use parametric filters to incorporate an SSD with at least 1TB of space. We have also added a parametric filter for a 2TB mechanical drive for mass storage, such as extra games and videos. Everyone's storage needs differs, so feel free to add or remove capacity to your heart's desire.


For our GPU, the Nvidia GeForce RTX 2060 is one of the best price for performance cards on the market. The RTX 2060 will provide a consistent 60fps on many demanding games like PUBG) at Ultra at 1080p, and even 1440p for some games like Apex Legends. It'll also handle Fortnite with zero issues. For those interested in VR, this card will have no problem playing any and and all applications currently on the market.

For streaming, the newly-updated NVENC encoding will offload the task to the GPU with a minimal performance hit using OBS (Open Broadcaster Software) while providing image quality similar to or better than x264 Fast quality.

To keep the noise and temperatures down, we've updated the filter to include a minimum length to avoid "mini" versions of the card, which prioritize fitting into small builds, such as an ITX case. You can choose to use this filter instead, if you want to include the smaller cards for any reason. Note that smaller cards will be louder or hotter - or both.


All of our parts are on display in the Phanteks Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass. This case features a clean design and a tempered glass window. It includes 2x front panel USB 3.1 Gen 1 ports, a PSU shroud, and a number of cable management holes and tie-offs to help your build look cleaner. It can also fit full-sized video cards.


For our power supply, we're using a parametric selection of well-reviewed semi or fully modular units, all of which are 80+ Gold certified or above and can provide plenty of power for this build.

Intel Version

Here is the Intel version of our Great Gaming Guide.

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Compatibility Check: No issues/incompatibilities found.

Estimated Wattage: 309W
Component Selection Base Promo Shipping Tax Price Where
CPU €198.84 Free two-day shipping with Amazon Prime €198.84 Amazon Italia Buy
CPU Cooler €35.30 Free two-day shipping with Amazon Prime €35.30 Amazon Italia Buy
From parametric filter
  • Form Factor: ATX
  • Chipset: AMD B450
  • RAM Slots: 4 - 16
€86.99 Free two-day shipping with Amazon Prime €86.99 Amazon Italia Buy
From parametric filter
  • Speed: DDR4-3000, DDR4-3200, DDR4-3300, DDR4-3333
  • Size: 16GB (2x8GB)
€88.30 Free two-day shipping with Amazon Prime €88.30 Amazon Italia Buy
From parametric filter
  • Capacity: 960 GB - 15360 GB
  • Type: SSD
€109.99 Free two-day shipping with Amazon Prime €109.99 Amazon Italia Buy
From parametric filter
  • Capacity: 2000 GB - 15360 GB
  • Type: 7200RPM
  • Interface: SATA 6 Gb/s
  • Form Factor: 3.5"
€59.99 €59.99 Amazon Italia Buy
Video Card
From parametric filter
  • Chipset: GeForce RTX 2060
  • Length: 223 mm - 403 mm
€369.00 €369.00 Amazon Italia Buy
Case €71.69 €71.69 Amazon Italia Buy
Power Supply €107.00 €107.00 Amazon Italia Buy
Total: €1127.10
* Using your selected merchants and only including nearby in-store pickup prices)
* Some physical dimension restrictions cannot (yet) be automatically checked, such as cpu cooler / RAM clearance with modules using tall heat spreaders.

Comments Sorted by:

crAckZ 12 points 29 days ago

thanks. I have spent the past 2 days putting together a similar build doubting certain things. I like this setup. i was really torn on the graphics card and going with the Ryzen 7. I created this account to say thank you.

ThoughtA staff submitter 5 points 29 days ago

No problem! Thanks for the kind words.

asianoodleman 1 point 23 days ago

do you think this is also good? https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/784bgw

TShaw13 1 Build 2 points 23 days ago

Motherboard and Ram wise your list would be better. The 2600 vs 2600x is just clock speed difference, you can overclock with an aftermarket cooler.

If you don't need the huge 1tb ssd and don't want gold rated psu your list looks just fine! Also the stock cooler will work, but keep an upgrade such as the one in the list above in mind. I'm currently looking at the 212 black rgb version for my ryzen pc. The stock cooler will be louder and not as efficient especially when going for an overclock

asianoodleman 2 points 23 days ago

would my PSU cause any problems in the future or is it fine for this build? and I plan on keeping the stock cooler but I won't be overclocking. thank you again for answering!

TShaw13 1 Build 1 point 23 days ago

Should be fine, google says the 2060 uses around 170watts.

The one you have spec'd is the same one I put in my build! I chose the 600watt as it was a good price and i thought gave some good headroom without being overkill.

matthewwind 1 point 11 days ago

Why motherboard pick b450 not x470? What different

AlexNotReally 1 point 11 days ago

B450 and X470 are the same when it comes to overclocking, but generally X470 has better VRM's due to the higher price (Not in all cases, some X470 boards are very cheaply built), and the largest difference is that X470 has Multi-GPU support (I.E. Crossfire, SLI) If Multi-GPU is not important and you are not doing extreme overclocking, B450 is an ideal option.

JackLickinsaw 4 points 28 days ago

This will be my first time going to build a pc. Does this build have a guide I can follow? I'm trying to make sure I don't mess this up.

GatitoProgramador 16 points 27 days ago

The Verge had a video but they took it down. giggles

Sorry. Linus Tech, Pau's Hardware, Bitwit. They all have several videos.

SychicMind 1 Build 7 points 25 days ago

Who's pau?

ASilentSloth 2 points 25 days ago

They meant Paul. So "Paul's Hardware"

SychicMind 1 Build 3 points 25 days ago

it was a joke lol

GreenDragon45 0 points 6 days ago


trevb0t 6 points 16 days ago

Don't forget Jay's Two Cents!

StBr3ndan 2 points 2 days ago

Team Jay!

ImApparentlyHuman 2 points 27 days ago

make sure to read the manual your motherboard comes with

trevb0t 1 point 16 days ago

The popular PC Youtubers all have build videos you'll find very helpful. It really is a pretty simple process these days!

SrDoritos29 1 point 16 days ago

u can simply look up youtube like i did

Hussein.H -2 points 25 days ago

If you get very frustrated very easily, like me, you could see if a local PC repair store or boutique is willing to build it for you. They will charge you, but not crazy prices, and if they do the Windows install as well, it should be much better in the long run. I always come across something stupid in the install process and I've had recurring errors with my DIY custom PC, making it even more annoying.

ReG-Gunner.YT 4 points 21 days ago

So will this build run around 100 frames while streaming R6S and Fortnite ETC?

foxxyman 1 point 6 days ago

maybe not 100 frames while streaming, but maybe if you are not streaming... you might get closer to like 70 fps

GatitoProgramador 3 points 27 days ago

Edited this list to add a Ryzen 7 and an RTX 2070 (Total: $1136.52 ) https://pcpartpicker.com/user/GatitoProgramador/saved/#view=k8m6sY

Maxechos 1 Build 3 points 10 days ago

Good build. But for a few bucks more. Still under 1100 you can build a ryzen 2600x with a rtx 2070. You’ll have less storage because instead of a 980ssd just do a 128 m.2 pcie SSD as a boot drive and a 2TB HDD for storage.


If you want to save money just downgrade to a Ryzen 2600. Wont be much but still will be effective. The stock cpu cooler should be fine. But you can get a air cooler for cheap. So no worries there.

biggkenny 2 points 29 days ago

Wouldn't the Wraith Spire cooler that comes with the 2600x be completely adequate? My thought is that you would surely be choosing between (the 2600 (non x) AND a cooler) OR (the 2600x WITHOUT a cooler)? Wouldn't these get basically the same performance but be cheaper?

iruel 2 points 29 days ago

I just did almost this exact build in October. I didn't order the cooler at the time but ordered it in January. The I found the stock one couldn't keep up under max load situations like encoding video. I later noticed that the default fan curve in the bios was not letting the fan spin up 100% so I may have been okay with the stock one after altering the curve But the 212 black is significantly better

totbot57 2 points 25 days ago

When you say the 212 black is better, can you expand? How is it better in terms of end user experience please? What happens to the machine if the fan can't keep up, will it crash or are will it automatically throttle back performance?

Deadlyss 1 point 24 days ago

It will throttle back performance if it gets to hot, and if that doesn't work it will crash.

FancySnancy 1 point 18 days ago

^^^ it starts lowering Voltage and CPU load once it reaches around 80-85C to lower temperatures and if it exceeds that it will force shutdown due to overheating

biggkenny 1 point 15 days ago

The cooler is quite a bit better, but the CPU isn't much better (X vs non X) if you have a good cooler.

iruel 2 points 29 days ago

I just did this build a few months ago. I kept my corsair hx750i psu and msi Rx480 8gb and antec p280 from before though. I managed to get my ryzen 5 2600x for $230 CAD on amazon at the time. It's been really awesome. A huge leap from my i5 4570

james.castonguay86 1 point 8 days ago

Hoping to get your input. Like you, I plan on keeping my Corsair 650 and my MSI RX 480 8gb from my current PC and build something along these lines (maybe wait for next gen Ryzen CPU, not sure). How's the GPU performance with this build? Anything else you would change in this build? 2700x?

acelenny 2 points 29 days ago

Very nice looking compute. I was wondering how this compares performance wise to the Intel version for both gaming and other tasks. From what I have seen, the intel should be slightly better for pure gaming but this amd setup should be a better all rounder, is that true?

markker2992 2 Builds 1 point 22 days ago

It's true but at the same time it's rare to see it much with a gpu at this level. Also an adaptive sync display will negate most of anything you'd ever notice and is just so worth it. I think the am4 platform is more future proof and you get a more versatile build.

FancySnancy 2 points 18 days ago

Ryzen has better Motherboard support, and at max i've seen a 5 frame difference (average of 1-3) between intel and AMD, but a noticable cost difference

Squadkills 1 Build 1 point 1 month ago

Was wondering, will a r5 2600 be a good replacement for the 2600x?

JT817 3 points 1 month ago


Chaos_098 1 point 25 days ago

Yes, there is no problem running a regular 2600 over the 2600x. You can overclock both as well.

In essence the 2600x is a marginally boosted 2600.

tsenjin 1 point 5 days ago

The 2600 actually OC's better than the X.

Deadlyss 1 point 24 days ago

Yes, the only difference is 2600X are binned by AMD

trevb0t 1 point 16 days ago

Yeah, absolutely. For the minute performance boost, you could (probably) find a better way to spend that $30 difference.

Squadkills 1 Build 1 point 16 days ago

Yea I guess i might’ve spent it well idk just posted my build with it lol

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h0pT0_Gaming 1 point 29 days ago

I didn't think that you could have an AMD CPU but also an Intel GPU? Can someone explain please?

PrivatePengu 1 point 29 days ago

Do you mean Nvidia GPU?

Anyhow, any Intel or AMD processor can be used alongside any Nvidia or AMD graphics card.

h0pT0_Gaming 1 point 28 days ago

Whoops yes I meant Nvidia. I don't know why I said Intel xD

NTTCY 1 point 2 days ago

You can have AMD CPU with Nvidia GPU. CPU's and GPU's aren't locked like that.

You can also have an AMD CPU with an INTEL GPU(but those aren't out yet)

FancySnancy 1 point 18 days ago

you can have whatever CPU with what ever GPU you want with no issues

NecoUhgr -1 points 27 days ago

I think you’re getting mixed up. Nvidea is not intel

JoshSh 4 points 26 days ago

I think you’re getting mixed up. Nvidea is not Nvidia.

h0pT0_Gaming 3 points 27 days ago

I know that.

Anderson233 1 point 29 days ago

Sorry I know this may be a dumb question but could I swap the 2060 for a 1070?

eesti 1 point 29 days ago

The RTX 2060 has a better NVENC encoder for streaming, but if you find a good used deal the GTX 1070 works too

Today 1 point 23 days ago

Or save the money on the GPU, buy a used cheaper card and put the money toward a 2700x and stream with x264.

Max_Dota2 1 point 29 days ago

I'm planning to buy this build and was wondering if you had any recommendations on a gaming monitor to go with it? I'll be playing Dota2 with this for 95% of the time and was looking to spend around $200-300. (probably 144hz or higher) 24-27''

Thanks for your input (it's going to be my first ever own built computer)

EnergeticTk 1 Build 1 point 20 days ago

Look for the msi mag241c, it has 144hz an VA panel, it's curved, has Vesa mount option, built in headphone hanger, an USB hub with a hdmi and dp imput. It also has a 27" version.

PartPickingYoutube 1 point 28 days ago

Personally I think it's better going for the R5 2600 because the only difference between it and the X model is 200 Mhz of extra base clock and the wraith spire stock cooler instead of the wraith stealth. I don't think it's worth an extra $60 or however much the extra price is. You can over clock it afterwards anyways.

FancySnancy 1 point 18 days ago

i've seen the price difference be as low as 20-25 dollars,

Freemen 1 point 27 days ago

Can me overclock it even more?

SpaghettioDeVito 1 point 14 days ago

If you wanted to go further you would need a liquid cooler.

SamuraiGlyph 1 point 27 days ago

Jeez dude, RAM prices have really gotten good lately. Shame I bought my 16gb kit for £120 for a Black Friday "deal".

AdamL10 1 point 26 days ago

I’m a complete beginner and I know nothing about computers. I’ve wanted a pc for a while now and I’ve just started looking for parts. Is this one good and relatively cheap compared to others? Anything is helpful.

sgtcoffman 1 point 23 days ago

That all depends on what you want to do and what games you want to play. This PC is going to be very good at a lot of things, but a more budget PC could be built fairly easily for a couple hundred dollars less. Baseline though, it all depends on what you want to do with it. I'm not exactly an expert, but i'm sure if you have more questions that I can at least point you in the right direction or someone else here with more knowledge can more fully answer your questions.

trevb0t 1 point 16 days ago

Generally speaking, you could certainly build a gaming pc that won't struggle under load for less than this. This PC includes a very powerful, new generation of NVIDEA graphics card which is built around overclocking, which for MOST computing needs would be fairly excessive, and drives the price way up.

With some smart part changes to fit your specific needs, you could build with a similarly powerful CPU, a mid ranged GPU like the RX 570 or 580, etc for about $700-800.

lloydcrozier 1 point 25 days ago

Will i need to purchase additional fans for this case?

eesti 2 points 25 days ago

a fan for the front might be helpful

MapleSyrpMaster 1 point 25 days ago

on the list, it says that the rtx 2060 is 143 dollars but when I click on the buy link it takes me to Amazon and its $500!? anybody know what up with that?

trevb0t 1 point 16 days ago

It's probably still technically listed on amazon somewhere, which is a dead page that redirects to an updated one. Also it could take the used&new section into account?

zkartje 1 point 15 days ago

That's strange. A new RTX 2060 will be priced no where near $143. However, $500 sounds too expensive as well. Right now they go for $300-400

traegerh 1 point 24 days ago

Just wondering (this is my first time building) does having an Intel or AMD CPU matter?

Deadlyss 2 points 24 days ago

imo no

eesti 2 points 24 days ago

AMD CPUs are cheaper, while Intel CPUs have good single core performance

Millillion 2 points 24 days ago

Not strictly. Some things run better on one or the other just like some things run better on either AMD or Nvidia graphics cards, but those things aren't very common.

trevb0t 1 point 16 days ago

Historically AMD has never been able to match the longevity of Intel. That said, the Ryzen series has most long term Intel fans taking a second look... You can get a lot of bang for a much smaller buck with the Ryzen series.

I personally think on the lower end, you're even better off with Ryzen. A core i3 that matches R3 2200G in performance costs at least twice the latter.

saltymat 1 point 24 days ago

IS a gold 550 watt good enough for a rtx 2070 without overclocking?

Millillion 1 point 24 days ago

It should be as long as the PSU is good quality.

saltymat 1 point 24 days ago


Millillion 1 point 24 days ago

Have you taken a look at the Arctic Freezer 34 Esports CPU coolers? I think they would be a good alternative for the Hyper 212 should an alternative be desired. The dual fan models retail for $40 and perform above their price range in both temperatures and noise while looking attractive in 4 color options.

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 24 days ago

That's a great suggestion, thanks!

progmanpaul 1 point 21 days ago

Noctua also makes great CPU and Case fans - quiet and effective for the price.

Millillion 1 point 20 days ago

True they make pretty much the best, but none that compete with either the Hyper 212 series or Arctic Freezer 33/34 in both price and performance at the same time.

atacocat 1 point 23 days ago

The Ryzen 5 2600 and 2600x are capped @ 2933 Mhz RAM. lol, It's not worth to include 3200 Mhz ram in the parametic filter.

eesti 2 points 23 days ago

They are only capped to 2933 stock, they can still be overclocked to 3200

ReG-Gunner.YT 1 point 23 days ago

So, I have a Question. How many Frames does this Run 1920x1080 on games such as, Fortnite and Rainbow 6 siege?

eesti 1 point 23 days ago


ReG-Gunner.YT 1 point 23 days ago

Lol ok thanks. What about the Intel?

eesti 1 point 23 days ago

still enough

trevb0t 1 point 16 days ago

You could achieve 60 FPS on Fortnite with a potato. That said this would be well over 100+

ReG-Gunner.YT 1 point 15 days ago

welp time to go buy a potato

SpaghettioDeVito 1 point 14 days ago

funny because my old potato couldn´t.

zkartje 1 point 15 days ago

This system should both of those games great at 1080p. I'm guessing here- around 100-150 fps at high/ultra settings.

lipzi 1 point 22 days ago
eesti 1 point 19 days ago

No, I would suggest a better PSU, like what they suggest

Japi33 1 point 21 days ago

Hi i want to build this set up part by part what do you think i should get like a cheaper one part and just upgrade later ex. Instead of getting a 2600x ill just get 2600 .cause im just scared what if i buy that part and the next day the price drops immediately thanks

eesti 1 point 19 days ago

The 2600 is a good alternative to the 2600X

Japi33 1 point 18 days ago

Thanks but i got the 2600x already. How abou the gpu thinking about getting 580 instead of the 2060 is the 200 really worth it

eesti 1 point 17 days ago

If you're gonna drop down, get the 1660Ti instead

zachsmith21605 1 point 21 days ago

Is this worth the pay I am a beginner and I was just wondering if this is worth the money.

eesti 1 point 19 days ago


shodian95 1 point 21 days ago

I just completed this build for the same pourpose, what do you think? Do you'd change something? https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/Zbq4fH

puzoen 1 point 20 days ago

I'm planning to build this and I was wondering; if I switch out the motherboard, memory, and SSD to a MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4, G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory and ADATA - Ultimate SU800 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive, would I have any problems? Also, would I need case fans? (First time building a pc, friend is helping me build it though). I already bought the case, and I'm very excited!

puzoen 1 point 20 days ago

Also planning to switch out the CPU Cooler for a Cooler Master - Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition 57.3 CFM.

Nanotech123 1 point 20 days ago

This seems like an awesome build and I can't wait to build it! However, would it be work switching the build's GPU with this card?


eesti 1 point 19 days ago

No, if you want a top tier 2060 the MSI Gaming Z is cheaper

Tjguy3409 1 point 19 days ago

What’s another comparable choice for memory, the one picked is out of stock on newegg.

_SquishSquash 1 point 19 days ago

Hey anyone know a good video card replacement I cant seem to find that card anywhere!

zkartje 1 point 15 days ago

Personal opinion but I don't think the new 2000 series RTX cards are worth it right now. If you're looking to save a bit of money I'd go with a GTX1070, 1080, 1080ti, or or the newer 1660ti. This will give you very similar performance or even better in some scenarios.

Myself 1 point 18 days ago

Thanks, I am new to PcPartPicker, and just discovered this build which is very helpful.

I am planning to use the same motherboard and CPU, but found other memory. The memory you currently have in the build (G.Skill Aegis 16 Gb, F4-3000C16D-16GISB) is not in the list of supported memory for the Asrock B450 Pro 4. Would this be an issue ?

Is there any logic for choosing the proper memory for the motherboard ? (it's really hard to find memory which is actually in QVL list of the motherboard)

FancySnancy 1 point 18 days ago

i don't think there is much compatibility problems with ram will say you might have to change the ram settings in the Bios but other then that it's fine

ledge9 1 point 18 days ago

Nice build would've gotten a water cooler for streaming while playing, cause that may be a heavy process! Good luck with your streaming!

eesti 1 point 17 days ago

A good enough air cooler would work just as well if not better, the stock cooler would even probably be enough

FancySnancy 1 point 16 days ago

^^^ especially considering Nvidia's new system where you can offload a majority of the load to the GPU

hagan10 1 point 17 days ago

I would like to use a Freesync monitor... Do you have a recommendation of a comparable Radeon graphics card?

eesti 1 point 17 days ago

A Vega 64 is your best bet, but good luck finding one new for a reasonable price

FancySnancy 1 point 16 days ago

^^^ they're usually around 400 dollars which just isn't worth it, along with around double the Watts required

Vovical 1 point 16 days ago

Nice build, very balanced and makes the most out of the budget, especially seeing it features a 3tb hdd and 960gb ssd. With a 144hz monitor for around $200, this could make a great streaming setup.

Sir_Gilman 1 point 16 days ago

Hey guys, can i change the gpu for a Rtx2080 with no problem to the rest of the parts? What could you say are the best Rtx2080 models? I'm building my first pc but i want one of the 2080 models so i don't have to change it in like 4 years. Thanks in advance

eesti 1 point 16 days ago

If you want an RTX 2080, I would go with the Excellent Build Guide

Sir_Gilman 1 point 16 days ago

Thanks for the reply! Mostly i'm asking because there is a sale in a store where i live and the difference between a 2070 and a 2080 is like a 100 bucks, but i wanted to know if this parts work well with because of the price difference between this build and the excellent build guide

eesti 1 point 16 days ago

There wouldn't be a huge cpu bottleneck

Sir_Gilman 1 point 16 days ago

Ok then ,i will keep checking some things but i think i will take your advice of going with the excellent build (i had confused it with the highest one) thanks for the help! One last question, is there much difference in the different 2080 models? I find reviews that contradict with other ones and so on. Are the turing ones worth the extra cost?

eesti 1 point 16 days ago

Turing is the codename for the 16/20 series as a whole

weirdboywithshotgun 1 point 16 days ago

Would it be good enough for VR?

eesti 1 point 12 days ago


Neratex 1 point 15 days ago

thanks man! Was looking for a white now <3

SexualPresence 1 point 15 days ago

I put together a build roughly similar to this however my Screen appears to freeze when I stream and have League of Legends playing at the same time. I don't have any other programs running in the background any advice? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cyhXr6 My power supply is the Microcenter (PowerSpec) IPSG 650W 80+ Bronze its not on PCpartpicker list.

Jnorman2123 1 point 15 days ago

If i can get an amd Ryzen 5 1600 for 80$ would it be better value or would it be better to stick with the 2600x?

eesti 1 point 12 days ago

for $80 I would go for it and then buy a good cooler to overclock it

Crayder 1 Build 1 point 13 days ago

Honestly with this build I think I'd go for a Ryzen 5 1500X to keep it within it's parameters. The 1500X is way cheaper and just about as consistent for this build as the 2600X. If this guide is for a basic gaming set up that'd be my recommendation, the 1500X kicks *** for what it is. If not the 1500X, I recommend the 2700 or the 2700X over the 2600X, easy comparison in my opinion for not-so-different pricing.

eesti 2 points 12 days ago

The 1500X only has four cores, so streaming is out of the question, and the 2700(X) are slower in single threaded tasks

HeckU123 1 point 12 days ago

This is just the mid-range build that paul's hardware did in their how to build a gaming pc in 2019 video

eesti 2 points 11 days ago

well it's a good configuration, so great minds think alike, I guess ;)

Blueo 1 point 12 days ago

I followed this guide but tweaked it, a bit, i'm just wondering if you guys think its good. (my max budget is 2k CDN) https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/n6hngw This is my first build ever, I knew about building PC's for a long time now, and really wanted to build one, but never knew how, until now (I watched A LOT of videos). I'm a console peasant who never experienced real PC gaming, I played on an old IMac but that's crap. I have never in my life seen 30+ frames at, at-least medium settings. Thanks in advance.

matthewwind 1 point 11 days ago

Why motherboard pick b450 not x470? What different

eesti 1 point 11 days ago

The extras X470 provide aren't worth the money in this case

Akira282 1 point 11 days ago

Why not just use cloud storage for games, etc instead of using local storage. The 1TB should be enough for local no?

eesti 1 point 10 days ago

Storage speed can actually affect things like game loading times and such, and besides, what if you don't trust the cloud with all of your personal data

Akira282 1 point 9 days ago

Thanks for your thoughts. Makes sense for games, but I mean the way steam works is all the setup files are on the cloud. Install only the games you need to play locally. Then uninstall. Can't you use a private cloud though in case you don't want it on the public cloud?

eesti 1 point 8 days ago

The cloud is just another computer

bcode90 1 point 11 days ago

I'm brand new to the pc world, so I was wondering if I get this build could I hook it up to my 55" 4k tv in my living room and sync an xbox controller and play pc games that way?

eesti 1 point 10 days ago


europanoob 1 point 10 days ago

Pro4 mobo is garbage. Get msi mortar B450(m) for its vrm, design and bios features. Ssd is trash, Samsung evo 860 is the boardeline, better yet, give 20£ more for a Samsung 970 evo. Ram is okayish for the price.

eesti 1 point 10 days ago

assuming you can even get a mortar, and good SSDs for cheaper like the L5 Lite 3D, the WD Blue, and the MX500 exist

Tjguy3409 1 point 10 days ago

Tried to build this today, can’t get it to start up. Fans and lights come on but won’t boot. First time builder but have friend that was helping me that has experience building PCs. He’s thinking it is a bad motherboard, trying not to get discouraged.

eesti 1 point 10 days ago

where did you plug your display cable in

Soul007 1 point 10 days ago

is this build recomendable and would it be able to play halo mcc with decent Frames?

eesti 1 point 10 days ago


Wisestguy 1 point 10 days ago

That's a pretty good build in a nice case. I just put together a Gaming/Streaming [encoding] build. Here's a list that's close: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Wisestguy/saved/Xt2tgs

If you use StoreMI, you'll get massively better performance from a 256GB nvme than your SSD without any drawbacks. Just be sure to install the OS on the hard drive, not the SSD before you turn on StoreMI.

This motherboard has wifi, and lots of features. The only place it's lacking is memory slots and fan headers. I added a splitter for the exhaust fans and I used only 1 DIMM to allow for future expansion (another 16GB).

The Wraith Prizm cooler is enough for normal use. Overclocking isn't necessary with the 2700x. My single cores boost up to 4.6GHz on their own, and it engages all 16 threads at 3.92GHz when I encode video. Temps stay between 74 and 80C.

In order to almost match your $, I trimmed the GPU by one point (https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html) and saved $70. But I was able to improve the CPU (by 2 cores) and SSD (Sata vs nvme).

In fact, my build costs more because of the additional case fans. What additional fans does the Phanteks case need?


Teohelm 1 point 10 days ago

This is not a good build at all. Where do I begin? Let us just go in order. The motherboard has bad ratings and has problems including boards being DOA and headers not working and even one frying out a cases led's. Not good. The ram has HORRIBLE timings as well as not being fast enough to get the most from the 2600 x because of the infinity fabric. You will be leaving performance on the table as 3200 is the sweet spot. I haven't checked but it would surprise me if that ram was Samsung B-die which makes a potential triple whammy of issues. Next is the ADATA SSD. Over 44% of ratings at one place alone rate this SSD at 2 stars OR UNDER with a high failure rate. That means almost a 50% chance of that drive crapping out on you or being dead right out of the box. I would not buy any pc part with that high of a crap rating. I wouldn't buy a vacuum cleaner with that high a crap rating let alone ANY pc part. Why would you take that kind of chance? Next is the Ultrastar HDD, which is basically the same issue(s) as the SSD. The cherry on top of all of this is that the price for the Phanteks case is for Newegg Business which not everyone can get which means the actual price for most of us is actually $59.99 and not $55.98. If you got these parts you better put your hands together and pray to your deity of choice because you will need the help hoping this lasts you more than a year at most before something will have to be replaced. Sure it looks good if you don't do any research and don't know/understand what the hell you are looking at.

skadidle 2 points 3 days ago

Finally, someone who doesn't simply praise the guide or asks is this good enough for X?

Could you also provide solutions to the problems you are pointing out?

Teohelm 1 point 1 day ago

The main thing that would fix a lot of these problems is doing research. It may sound boring but as with anything else you are going to spend good money one you want to make sure you are getting the parts that will do what you want and not crap out on you while doing it. Watch reviews on youtube by several different people, read reviews on several sites and maybe get first-hand knowledge from anyone you might know. If 40% of the reviews say part x is crap across several different sites, then it probably is, especially if it's one of the cheapest models of that part. Despite this, there is a chance that a part you get is dead out of the box, but that is the nature of buying manufactured parts, every now and then you will get a dud, it happens.

The problem here seems to be 3 fold... 1. The main posters on here (ThoughtA and Manirelli) can't seem to do a good build on here if their lives depended on it imo. I don't know their credentials and they could be 2 dudes in their mother's basement for all I know but man alive. For example, I have actually seen them say on more than one occasion that single channel memory is fine because the benefits of dual channel (using 2 sticks of memory as opposed to 1) is negligible. This is WAY WRONG. Your fps will suffer greatly if you go with one stick to save money. They also use the parametric filters the choose the cheapest parts they can (most of the time) which leads to the problems of choosing the crappiest parts for their builds. As I said, I wouldn't take those kinds of odds on a vacuum let along my $500, $1000, $1500 etc build. You are literally just asking for problems. If you can you take that potential problem out of the equation, you do it and not add to it.

  1. They way they label their builds on here. They label them from "entry level to magnificent" which is VERY misleading. Those names have nothing to do with the quality or capability of the builds but just a moniker to put on them according to the tier of the build within a stack of builds in their opinion. So one of their builds could be labeled "magnificent" but have the very same problems as the "entry level" build which shouldn't be problems at all, to begin with.

  2. The fact that, as you have pointed out, damn near everyone just says "great build, fantastic build, etc...) when if just a little bit of research would be done, I'm talking 5 freaking minutes, you or ANYONE would come across the same problems that I have. It literally boggles my mind as to how seemingly no one can see what I am seeing. If you needed to buy a new battery for your car or a new tv would you purposefully buy one with a rating where 35-45% of the time the battery or tv will be absolute crap? Again, I would hope the hell not but that doesn't stop them from doing it over and over and over with, as you said, everyone praising them for it. One more thing that they do in regards to the Ryzen builds, is the constant use of 3000 memory. As you may or may not know 3200 is the sweet spot for Ryzen due to the infinity fabric interconnect in the chip. anything slower than 3200 and you ARE AND WILL cost yourself performance ESPECIALLY in games. With the prices coming down on ram especially there is no reason (unless for some reason your motherboard cannot use memory that fast or you simply can not afford for some reason to go with 3200 over 3000) that you should be using anything slower than 3200mhz ram period. This is a known fact, not opinion, fact. It may not be a great difference but it is enough, and again why purposefully hinder your build? I hope this answers some of your questions. Thanks for asking and have a good one.

Benja_1223 1 point 9 days ago

I'm very new to the PC Building Scene and ask myself if this: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Benja_1223/saved/s7m4qs Is a good build to start. For me (I live in Germany) it will cost around 600€ with buying Windows 10 afterwards. So what do you think I should change or just buy it like it is. I dont know if this is a good or a bad build. My first own build btw. Thanks.

lachiu 1 point 8 days ago

You can't stream at decent quality with a 2600X at 720p using H.264. NVenc isn't comparable with H.264.

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 8 days ago

H.264 isn't one all-compassing quality, hence the qualification of what encoding speed it is comparable to.

Viargentum 1 point 8 days ago

Would this build work for a just gaming computer (as in not streaming or recording) or are there optimizations I should remove and add improvements in other areas if I want to use it as a general gaming computer?

RainbowSpear 1 point 6 days ago

I'm completely new to building PCs, and don't know anything about computing and electronics. My old Macbook is close to death (like, near-unplayable framerate drops on DS3 on 800x600 and lowest settings) and since I rarely need to do stuff on the move anymore I've been thinking about getting a gaming PC rather than a gaming laptop. Better value, more power and more futureproof/upgradable.

This might be a silly question, but would this be able to run Monster Hunter World, Dark Souls 3, F1 2017, Street Fighter V, GTA V and Dota 2 on high settings with good framerates?

Those are the games I'll be playing the most. Aside from this it'll be for work. :)

ml3rouxx 1 point 4 days ago

I just did this build but made a couple small changes. I dropped the 1TB HDD, and the dedicated graphics. (I'm using it for music production not gaming.) I also added a nvme m.2 pcie. I put it together, powered it up and all I get is fans and lights. No display on the monitors and no POST beeps. I then found out the Ryzen 5 2600x doesn't support onboard graphics so I added a zotac 1050 GPU. Still no display or post beeps. Even if I remove the RAM I get no beep codes. PSU has been tested and is good. So I'm thinking either the motherboard is faulty or when I tried to boot with only onboard graphics is it possible I damaged the CPU? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Wisestguy 1 point 4 days ago


It sounds like one of your power cables isn't seated fully, or the memory isn't seated. Also, you may not have a speaker to make the "beeps".

Kirizame 1 point 4 days ago

New to the PC scene, would this be a good beginner build?

ItsGabeAgain 1 point 3 days ago

Yes, I'd say that this is a really good mid-range beginner build.

straubdba 1 point 3 days ago

Case comes with one fan. Is there a need for more in the front?

Its_Ghosty 1 point 3 days ago

Would I be better using a G-Sync or a free sync monitor with this setup?

BlameScott 1 point 2 days ago

This is a good build but for a little over $100 more you can get an X470 board a 650W PSU a better heatsink 2 140mm case fans and a better case. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ybXcD2

CP508 1 point 2 days ago

Thanks for the build! I slightly modified it for what's cheapest in my country (https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/GPPrbX). Any changes I should make before I order? (slightly worried RAM and motherboard are incompatible) :))

ThatFlameMan 1 point 2 days ago

case fans?

RazorSail 1 point 2 days ago

looks super lit. Do you think my Build would be good for playing and streaming at the same time? My build: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/RazorSail/saved/rnkCbv

UbaAmaze 1 point 2 days ago

Great List! But, I recommend at least 3200Mhz ram for Ryzen as it runs better with higher clock speeds

itsnbzl 1 point 1 day ago

Is there anyway I can get RGB for this PC?

neogrimjaw 1 point 1 day ago

Great build, i also try build my own but i don't know if its good for gaming+working (sketch Up, Adobe soft, game maker, etc).

Build 1

  • Ryzen 5 2600 with Wraith Stealth Cooler
  • MSI X470 Gaming Plus Motherboard
  • Zotac GTX 1660 Ti Twin Fan Graphic Card
  • Kingston Hyper X Fury 3200 MHz 2 x 8GB (16GB) DDR4 RAM
  • Samsung 860 Evo 500gb SSD
  • WD 1TB Bue HDD 7200RPM
  • FSP Hyper K 600W 80 Plus
  • Deepcool Earlkase Case


  • Ryzen 5 2600 with Wraith Stealth Cooler
  • MSI X470 Gaming Plus Motherboard
  • Zotac GTX 2070 Graphic Card
  • Kingston Hyper X Fury 3200 MHz 2 x 8GB (16GB) DDR4 RAM
  • XPG SX8200 Pro256GB M.2 NVME SSD
  • WD 1TB Bue HDD 7200RPM
  • FSP Hyper K 600W 80 Plus
  • Deepcool Earlkase Case

My friend said just use B450 then X470, but i research that Ryzen 5 2600 suit better with X470. If i chose Build 1, i should change the SSD to NVME SSD and do i need extra cooling fan? My room temperature can goes to 28 Celsius.

If i chose Build 2, do i need increase the PSU to 750W? since 2070 was power card they said.

Juptian 1 point 1 day ago

How are the temps/airflow? Only one case fan's gotta keep it semi-warm in there right?

L115847 1 point 1 day ago

Thank you~! I am 60 years old and building a Gaming System for my son as a Birthday present. I registered here like the person below to say Thank you and let you know you have made an old mans PC build much easier. Be well ThoughtA, John

ThoughtA staff submitter 2 points 1 day ago

That's fantastic to know! Thank you so much for the kind words, and I hope the PC build turns out great! If you'd like, a Completed Build would be very welcome after it's all finished.

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L115847 1 point 2 hours ago

Should have mentioned I spent hours looking at every component of this Build and researching each as I am learning. When I completed all the comparing and contrasting - this build is truly solid. I began ordering parts yesterday and will post the completed build. Great work on this one, it's simply an excellent value proposition.

Zoltalicious 0 points 21 days ago

IMHO, I'd drop a RZ 7 1700 in this, the 1700 is $169 on Newegg atm, and its base price is $179 on Newegg. The R5 2600x is less performance for more $, at $199. It's a no brainer.

eesti 1 point 19 days ago

The 2600X is faster in single threaded tasks

Zoltalicious 1 point 19 days ago

Maybe so, but more cores will last longer and many new games are making use of 6+ cores. If AAA gaming isn't someone's thing, then I can see the point.

eesti 1 point 17 days ago

If the focus is gaming, the 2600(X) is the best choice

MartenVr 0 points 20 days ago

I would recomment a 1660 gpu instead of a 2060

_SquishSquash 1 point 19 days ago

May I ask why?

FancySnancy 1 point 18 days ago

probly because it's cheaper i guess

Sketchy13 0 points 20 days ago

slightly creeped out at the fact this is almost identical to one of my part lists... https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Nr89mq

_Roller_ -1 points 26 days ago

So when are you guys going to actually put up new build videos and component reviews?

TrevorHaut -2 points 29 days ago

Probably should change this to the 1660 TI now

eesti 0 points 25 days ago

Why? It's a different tier of GPU, and literally worse performing

TrevorHaut 0 points 24 days ago

Seeing how modest build is suggesting a rx 580 and excellent is at a rtx 2070 I think that the GTX 1660 TI at $280 offers a better midpoint since the RTX features wont likely be taken advantage of with a 6GB card

eesti 1 point 24 days ago

Personally, I think the 1660 Ti is more suited for the 'Modest' build because of its pricepoint

maddog62 1 Build 1 point 24 days ago

I disagree since streaming is one of the use cases. Without the need for that, changing to the 1660TI is a no-brainer and reduce the price to the magic $1K figure.

loganbell2355 -2 points 29 days ago

this build guide is sad compared to dis.


eesti 0 points 29 days ago

That build has way too many problems

loganbell2355 0 points 29 days ago

thats the point

eesti 0 points 29 days ago

no the build you posted

loganbell2355 -1 points 29 days ago

i know that was the poInt

i fixed it anyway


eesti 0 points 29 days ago

Still iffy, especially with the PSU

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PrivatePengu 1 point 29 days ago

Yeah, it's decent. The difference between a fast SSD and a slow SSD is usually only milliseconds apart, so you should just go for whichever is cheapest and has the storage you need.

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PrivatePengu 1 point 29 days ago

I wouldn't be worried if I were you, to say the least.

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PrivatePengu 1 point 29 days ago

7200 RPM, I think. I don't know much about HDDs, but from what I've seen on here, 5400 RPM is usually recommended as a quieter option.

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Note: Wattages are estimates only. Actual power draw may differ from listed values.
Component Estimated Wattage
AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor 11W - 95W
Cooler Master - Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler 5W - 10W
G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory 14W - 14W
TCSunBow - X3 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive 2W - 10W
Toshiba - P300 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive 4W - 20W
Gainward - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB Phoenix Video Card 40W - 160W
Total: 76W - 309W