the cards are nice, the prices are a joke

YAAAAAAS A new blog post! It may not be a build, but hey, it's something! Thanks Philip!

My 1070Ti will serve me just fine for my needs :)

Nvidia just took a page out of Apples playbook. Specially this year that both products offer almost not increase of performance or features but price is astronomical. Yes the crypto guys have something to do with it but lets be honest, there typical consumer of GPU's still playing fornite, orverwatch, WoW , DOTA and other more commercially pleasing games at 1080/1440 with a 144hgz monitor. I would hold t hat 1080ti until these cards become better with patches or just skip the generation. 20% or less performance increase is a joke for the prices. Like a said they took a page out of Apples book. Right now if you have a iphone x there is no reason to upgrade lol ..same here if you have a 1080ti just seat this one on save your hard earned money . On the other hand if you have stocks now you know that nvidia and apple will be very good performers until you retire because crypto is here to stay and people just want shinny new things simple as that lol ..

The only good reasons I can see to get a new gpu are for better 4k gaming so you can keep the fps at 60 in more games. In this case you probably already shelled out for a nice 4k monitor or something and you probably have the money for a 2080ti. The other reason is for real time ray tracing, but we haven't seen any benchmarks for that yet because it isn't even out in any games.

In other words, there is no reason to get the 20 cards now unless your filthy rich, or have ocd about frame drop on your 4k monitor. They're both legit reasons. If I had the money for a 4k setup I might want to upgrade.

I think 90% of the people buying the 20 series cards are actually the third category, Nvidia fanboys who are addicted to the bleeding edge.

Thanks so much for sharing these benchmarks. The more I view all three resolutions (1080p, 1440p, 2160p), the more I'm glad that I didn't purchase the RTX 2080 Ti. I don't see a major FPS difference between the GTX 1080 Ti and the RTX 2080 Ti. Plus the peak temperature differences is really interesting there * hint hint at GTX 1080 Ti * .

Maybe that'll change over time or its different results with the latest games as seen with the Shadow of Tomb Raider (plus some other older games yet varies there too) that can use some of the new features, but I'm not willing to spend that much either for a RTX 2080 Ti. I'm not really disappointed just thankful to see some benchmarks and confirming my decision to wait again. Thanks again for sharing this.

The more benchmarks I see, the more happy I become with my 1080. The difference in average FPS really isn't as big as they hyped it up to be. It's a straight up money grab, and it shows. Plus I'm sure as soon as RTX is turned on, these cards are gonna suffer in terms of FPS and temperatures.

I'd expect to see the results change a bit as more games gain support and drivers improve, considering this is a relatively new implementation of this technology. I don't think the actual performance differences will be enough to upgrade until next generation. By then more games will have more support and drivers will be tried and tested.

wait, why does the TI make this model so expensive when the non Ti founders edition chops the price tag in half. I know Ti adds a few vram and other stuff to the equation but why does it double the price? I mean even the founders edition 2080 ti is measurably cheaper.

What's the thought process that went behind the game choices for this bench? Ashes and Tomb Raider are easy picks given everyone does them, Hitman seems to be the AMD magic game, and... DotA?

Any reason why you guys didn't include the 2080?

Hey what’s the spacing between the screws that hold on the heatsink ? I’d really appreciate it ! :)

Hmm not as much bang for the buck as the 10 series.

Thank you for sharing the gaming benchmarks.

Happy to see benchmarks on this site =) and new blog posts! Very nicely done.

Nvidia hasn't sent me mine yet. They should have gotten them to me faster but oh well. I think they want you to forward them to me after your done all your testing so just send me an email to get my shipping, Thanks - Jayden

Medicore performance increase, terrible price.

hard pass. I'll keep my 1060 for another 2 generations at least.

NVIDIA = Apple

Sad. Never getting my money again. I knew it was coming. After last year and the prices it takes to build a PC now, this market is a joke. I'll just wait until the next big thing comes along because at this rate, PC gameplay is a TOTAL waste of money. Are they selling to the 1% who can afford this yearly crap? Get real. Don't buy it.

test CSGO

So essentially the only real difference is once you jump to true 4K. Extremely overhyped imo, I’d rather sli two 1070tis or 1080s for the same price but that’s not my decision to make.

Bleeding edge tech. Absolutely nothing out there yet optimized for the compute changes and code difference for the Ray tracing. Price jump, because, well, the new one has to be more costly than the old one, right?

I withhold judgement until at least one Qtr of development cycle post-release.

AMD PLEASE THE PC MASTER RACE IS BEING STARVED BY OUR OWN KINGS!! WE NEED YOU!! EVERY UPVOTE IS 1 DOLLAR DECREASE IN 2080 PRICES!! AMD PLEASE HELP US!!

Thanks for putting this together, PCPP. Do you guys feel this is worth the purchase at those prices? Especially for the ray tracing technology that many games do not have compatibility with? (I realize its a future visual adjustment that may be in games in the future - but it may not even take hold).

It looks to me that the price hike compared to the 1080ti and in come cases even compared to the 1080, when you consider the very marginal increase in performance, especially compared to the 1080ti, results in an expensive new piece of hardware that isn't at all worth it based on these results compared to the previous gen cards. Could be the drivers, could be the card really isn't worth it. Though that's up to the consumer purchasing the card to decide. That's just my opinion, I think the 1080 and 1080ti are a far better value, unless you REALLY want real time ray tracing support.

I'm still a console peasant, but why would any PC gamer want to spend an enormous amount of money on the RTX 2080 when they can turn the resolution down to 1440p and still get over 60fps? Most games will still do 4k 60fps just fine with a 1080TI anyway, and Shadow of the Tomb Raider only needs the extra power because its new and graphically demanding. But unless you are building a PC for max settings on post 2018 games, a 1080TI will do just fine.

I'll just stick with my STRIX 1080ti OC edition thank you!

The price is WAY too high for the extra performance, I personally think all you need is a GTX 970/980/980 Ti, as they are pretty cheap on the used market, at least out here in the Netherlands (~120/~170/~220), which is great for 1080p (970), 1440p (980) and even 4K with the 980 Ti.

That can’t justify the price at all

In my humble opinion, these benchmarks probably sold more 1080 Ti's than the newer RTX 2080 Ti's. I can fully understand the pricey sticker shock, but there is another aspect for an opportunity. Saving up the funds now for a possible price drop during Black Friday, and it's not that far off. If the prices do not come down far enough, and they Scrooge out on us for Christmas (Twice as long to save up the funds) and it's still too much, then a 1080 Ti will suffice. The money saved will keep me in Pizza mode for a nice long time.

New cards are nice, but I'm still only planning on upgrading to a 1080 Ti.

The high failure rate of these cards make me super leery of ever wanting one. Plus I am more of an AMD fan.

I don't see the point in comparing GTX against RTX.? Benchmarking latest hardware tech on what is now yesterday's software tech. DLSS, Tensor cores, DDR6 vs DDR5 that's called game over. On saying that the GTX 1080 ti is still an awesome card, and will be for sometime, until Ray Trace games are out. Then we'll see the RTX cards kick in.

What about the FoRtNItE Bench mark 0-o

Nice write up. Excited to see more.

Well its pretty clear why NVIDIA made no prior mention of benchmark comparisons. A better GPU indeed, but seriously at that price point, the GTX 2080 TI is a diss of a disappointment!

What happened with the "new architectural breakthrough" - dropping bombshells coupled with rumoured performance margins which were simply too good to be true. The only breakthrough I see with the RTX is pointless features and an apple-like astronomical price insurgency. I hope those hardworking and optimist pre-order recipients are content (genuinely) and as for crypto-miners and spend-splash spoilers - no comment!.

Nice! Good simple post on the hard performance numbers! Basically a 2080ti performns between 20-30% better on average to a 1080ti. Its good but that price premium is a no go for me. 1080ti still a good value if your not too hardcore on having the absolute bleeding edge hardware.

Pretty much as I expected. Too much of the GPU's budget is going towards those RTX cores, which really draws back the value when you look at it from a raw FPS outputting point of view. That's why I don't think these cards are mainstream GPUs, NVIDIA made a mistake of marketting them as one.

Thanks for the benchmarks (:

Can you test Dota 2 using Vulkan? Supposedly that's where Nvidia put a lot of effort into async compute.

Should i buy a 1080ti or a 2080? (currently have a 1070)

Disappointing :(

? How did the 2080 ti do better in 4k for dota2

Hopefully, with some time they'll drop down in price. If not I'll just go SLI 1080ti.

I'm still waiting for my Gaming X TRIO :-/

good thing there are rumours about new amd gpus in October

I will definitely stick to my 1080ti :O

So I guess i'll be waiting till next gen to upgrade.

Wow, 1080 Ti seems to outperform the 2080 in a few scenarios on 2560x1440. Pretty comparable actually and runs slightly cooler even!

RTX or 180 TI for Gaming

Thanks for the benchmarks.

Instead of focusing on RTX nvidia should've released another gtx series then later released a version of those with RTX, RTX is too weak

If you have the money it's worth it in my graphics-loving framerate-***** opinion, but most people don't have the kind of money to spend, so just get a 10606GB or an RX 500 card and you'll be happy. 1080 SLI is also a good choice.

The price is the main problem. Why pay $1200+ for a 2080TI when I can pay 1/2 to 2/3 of that cost for a custom 1080TI, it just doesn't seem logical. If anything I'll just go with the RTX 2070... GTX 1080 like performance and a similar price point with the addition of GDDR6 and Ray Tracing (even though it's barely supported).

Im new to Pc and Pc buliding but isn't the RXT 2070 cheaper and faster than the GTX 1080. I think that the 2070 is put aside for the big brother cards 2080 and 2080Ti.

Whats better or worse percentage change of the RTX 2070 Compared to the 1080 Ti?

Bought myself a msi 1080ti gaming x for $520 on Ebay used and from the reviews others bought it was like new and so was mine not a lick of dirt on it, and it work with no problem, screw those 2080 prices.

The first and last time NVIDIA GPUs were worth $1000+ was when the GTX 690 was released. That was 7 years ago even before the first Titan cards surfaced. In fact, it was the pinky toe in the proverbial high price swimming pool for NVIDIA, the card that started this upward trend. The difference between that card and the RTX series is that the price vs performance for the new RTX line is a joke by comparison.

My 690 GTX is still running strong in my son's PC, the same PC I built back in 2012. He is able to play every game out there, maybe not at ultra high settings but definitely not at low settings. The performance level of the 690 is between the 1060 and 1070 performance wise. When was the last time a GPU lasted 7 years?

When built a new system for myself in 2017 I jumped on the 1080 non-ti version as it had the best price vs performance at the time. Purchased through EVGA when they went on sale just before the 1080ti release and less than 3 months after purchasing the ti variant came out I was able to upgrade for only $100. A magnificent deal.

I blame AMD, personally. NVIDIA is only doing what every company has done in similar situations. AMD's latest GPU release in Jan was lackluster, again missing the mark for top tier performance. AMD needs to make NVIDIA sweat like they are making Intel sweat on the CPU side of the house. Competition will make prices come down eventually, but only if there "is" competition. Till then I'll just hang onto my 1080ti. Maybe down the road when AMD truly challenges NVIDIA I'll consider retiring the 690 and handing down my 1080ti to my son.

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