the cards are nice, the prices are a joke

YAAAAAAS A new blog post! It may not be a build, but hey, it's something! Thanks Philip!

Nvidia just took a page out of Apples playbook. Specially this year that both products offer almost not increase of performance or features but price is astronomical. Yes the crypto guys have something to do with it but lets be honest, there typical consumer of GPU's still playing fornite, orverwatch, WoW , DOTA and other more commercially pleasing games at 1080/1440 with a 144hgz monitor. I would hold t hat 1080ti until these cards become better with patches or just skip the generation. 20% or less performance increase is a joke for the prices. Like a said they took a page out of Apples book. Right now if you have a iphone x there is no reason to upgrade lol ..same here if you have a 1080ti just seat this one on save your hard earned money . On the other hand if you have stocks now you know that nvidia and apple will be very good performers until you retire because crypto is here to stay and people just want shinny new things simple as that lol ..

My 1070Ti will serve me just fine for my needs :)

Thanks so much for sharing these benchmarks. The more I view all three resolutions (1080p, 1440p, 2160p), the more I'm glad that I didn't purchase the RTX 2080 Ti. I don't see a major FPS difference between the GTX 1080 Ti and the RTX 2080 Ti. Plus the peak temperature differences is really interesting there * hint hint at GTX 1080 Ti * .

Maybe that'll change over time or its different results with the latest games as seen with the Shadow of Tomb Raider (plus some other older games yet varies there too) that can use some of the new features, but I'm not willing to spend that much either for a RTX 2080 Ti. I'm not really disappointed just thankful to see some benchmarks and confirming my decision to wait again. Thanks again for sharing this.

NVIDIA = Apple

Sad. Never getting my money again. I knew it was coming. After last year and the prices it takes to build a PC now, this market is a joke. I'll just wait until the next big thing comes along because at this rate, PC gameplay is a TOTAL waste of money. Are they selling to the 1% who can afford this yearly crap? Get real. Don't buy it.

What's the thought process that went behind the game choices for this bench? Ashes and Tomb Raider are easy picks given everyone does them, Hitman seems to be the AMD magic game, and... DotA?

The more benchmarks I see, the more happy I become with my 1080. The difference in average FPS really isn't as big as they hyped it up to be. It's a straight up money grab, and it shows. Plus I'm sure as soon as RTX is turned on, these cards are gonna suffer in terms of FPS and temperatures.

Hmm not as much bang for the buck as the 10 series.

Thank you for sharing the gaming benchmarks.

Happy to see benchmarks on this site =) and new blog posts! Very nicely done.

The only good reasons I can see to get a new gpu are for better 4k gaming so you can keep the fps at 60 in more games. In this case you probably already shelled out for a nice 4k monitor or something and you probably have the money for a 2080ti. The other reason is for real time ray tracing, but we haven't seen any benchmarks for that yet because it isn't even out in any games.

In other words, there is no reason to get the 20 cards now unless your filthy rich, or have ocd about frame drop on your 4k monitor. They're both legit reasons. If I had the money for a 4k setup I might want to upgrade.

I think 90% of the people buying the 20 series cards are actually the third category, Nvidia fanboys who are addicted to the bleeding edge.

go here to see other benchmarks http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-2080-Ti-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1080-Ti/4027vs3918

Was really excited for the RTX 20 series release but after they were released and after the first benchmarks...the price is outrageous. Its like OLED tvs when they came out, everyone said next year they will be better for a better price...false. They are still high priced with unpromising performance.

This is really sad TBH. Didn't think I would be hanging on to a gtx 1060 for another few years. Hopefully I can get a 1080ti or 1080 from EVGA soon so IF and that's a BIG IF..prices for RTX come down and the performance increases, then and only then will it be worth the jump from the 10 series cards. For someone like me with a 1060..the 2080/2080ti would be a great upgrade BUT I only have a 75hz monitor 2560x1080 so not only would I have to drop major loot on a 2080 (which IMO is the biggest loser out of all the cards coming out since you can get a 1080ti for less 700-800$ right now) I would have to buy my dream monitor the Dell AW3418dw, which runs a G anyway.

Sorry NVIDIA but something told me 6 months ago to grab a AMD card, I would at least be able to take advantage of my monitors freesync.

Nice write up. Excited to see more.

Well its pretty clear why NVIDIA made no prior mention of benchmark comparisons. A better GPU indeed, but seriously at that price point, the GTX 2080 TI is a diss of a disappointment!

What happened with the "new architectural breakthrough" - dropping bombshells coupled with rumoured performance margins which were simply too good to be true. The only breakthrough I see with the RTX is pointless features and an apple-like astronomical price insurgency. I hope those hardworking and optimist pre-order recipients are content (genuinely) and as for crypto-miners and spend-splash spoilers - no comment!.

Nice! Good simple post on the hard performance numbers! Basically a 2080ti performns between 20-30% better on average to a 1080ti. Its good but that price premium is a no go for me. 1080ti still a good value if your not too hardcore on having the absolute bleeding edge hardware.

I'd expect to see the results change a bit as more games gain support and drivers improve, considering this is a relatively new implementation of this technology. I don't think the actual performance differences will be enough to upgrade until next generation. By then more games will have more support and drivers will be tried and tested.

Any reason why you guys didn't include the 2080?

Pretty much as I expected. Too much of the GPU's budget is going towards those RTX cores, which really draws back the value when you look at it from a raw FPS outputting point of view. That's why I don't think these cards are mainstream GPUs, NVIDIA made a mistake of marketting them as one.

Thanks for the benchmarks (:

I feel like my GTX 1080 FTW Hybrid that I bought a year ago on Newegg for $579 is now a waste.

Hey what’s the spacing between the screws that hold on the heatsink ? I’d really appreciate it ! :)

Can you test Dota 2 using Vulkan? Supposedly that's where Nvidia put a lot of effort into async compute.

Should i buy a 1080ti or a 2080? (currently have a 1070)

Nvidia hasn't sent me mine yet. They should have gotten them to me faster but oh well. I think they want you to forward them to me after your done all your testing so just send me an email to get my shipping, Thanks - Jayden

Medicore performance increase, terrible price.

hard pass. I'll keep my 1060 for another 2 generations at least.

test CSGO

So essentially the only real difference is once you jump to true 4K. Extremely overhyped imo, I’d rather sli two 1070tis or 1080s for the same price but that’s not my decision to make.

I hope AMD comes back at Nvidia like they did with intel, because right now Nvidia gets to price their cards super high because AMD isn't giving much competition. But for now, I would stick with 10 series or see what the GTX 2050 and 2060 look like.

Bleeding edge tech. Absolutely nothing out there yet optimized for the compute changes and code difference for the Ray tracing. Price jump, because, well, the new one has to be more costly than the old one, right?

I withhold judgement until at least one Qtr of development cycle post-release.

Do you think i must get an RTX or wait for improvements.

Disappointing :(

? How did the 2080 ti do better in 4k for dota2

I'm still waiting for my Gaming X TRIO :-/

AMD PLEASE THE PC MASTER RACE IS BEING STARVED BY OUR OWN KINGS!! WE NEED YOU!! EVERY UPVOTE IS 1 DOLLAR DECREASE IN 2080 PRICES!! AMD PLEASE HELP US!!

good thing there are rumours about new amd gpus in October

Thanks for putting this together, PCPP. Do you guys feel this is worth the purchase at those prices? Especially for the ray tracing technology that many games do not have compatibility with? (I realize its a future visual adjustment that may be in games in the future - but it may not even take hold).

I will definitely stick to my 1080ti :O

It looks to me that the price hike compared to the 1080ti and in come cases even compared to the 1080, when you consider the very marginal increase in performance, especially compared to the 1080ti, results in an expensive new piece of hardware that isn't at all worth it based on these results compared to the previous gen cards. Could be the drivers, could be the card really isn't worth it. Though that's up to the consumer purchasing the card to decide. That's just my opinion, I think the 1080 and 1080ti are a far better value, unless you REALLY want real time ray tracing support.

I'm still a console peasant, but why would any PC gamer want to spend an enormous amount of money on the RTX 2080 when they can turn the resolution down to 1440p and still get over 60fps? Most games will still do 4k 60fps just fine with a 1080TI anyway, and Shadow of the Tomb Raider only needs the extra power because its new and graphically demanding. But unless you are building a PC for max settings on post 2018 games, a 1080TI will do just fine.

RTX 2080TI should be a great card... Maybe?

So I guess i'll be waiting till next gen to upgrade.

I'll just stick with my STRIX 1080ti OC edition thank you!

The price is WAY too high for the extra performance, I personally think all you need is a GTX 970/980/980 Ti, as they are pretty cheap on the used market, at least out here in the Netherlands (~120/~170/~220), which is great for 1080p (970), 1440p (980) and even 4K with the 980 Ti.

wait, why does the TI make this model so expensive when the non Ti founders edition chops the price tag in half. I know Ti adds a few vram and other stuff to the equation but why does it double the price? I mean even the founders edition 2080 ti is measurably cheaper.

That can’t justify the price at all

In my humble opinion, these benchmarks probably sold more 1080 Ti's than the newer RTX 2080 Ti's. I can fully understand the pricey sticker shock, but there is another aspect for an opportunity. Saving up the funds now for a possible price drop during Black Friday, and it's not that far off. If the prices do not come down far enough, and they Scrooge out on us for Christmas (Twice as long to save up the funds) and it's still too much, then a 1080 Ti will suffice. The money saved will keep me in Pizza mode for a nice long time.

Give us some new build videos my dudes, I'm missing the content.